"Shadows Of March 2000" - Goldman On The Great Momo Crash Of 2014
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"Shadows Of March 2000" - Goldman On The Great Momo Crash Of 2014
Submitted by Tyler Durden on
04/12/2014 17:47 -0400
Behold the great momo basket which after being the source of so much joy for
momentum chasers over the past year, has mutated into the source of so much
sorrow over the past two weeks.

We have bad news for hedge funds who, like Hugh Hendry in December of last year, threw fundamentals and caution to the wind and, with great reservations, jumped into this momo bandwagon in which mere buying beget more buying until nobody knew why anyone bought in the first place... and then everything crashed, leading to the worst day for hedge funds in a decade: according to Goldman's David Kostin, whose job is to be a cheerleader for the intangible "wealth effect" leading to all too tangible Goldman bonuses: "The stock market will likely recover during the next few months... but not momentum stocks."
Behold the (not so) great Momo crash of 2014:

First the bad news: according to Goldman not only will the momo stocks not rebound to previous highs and resume their leadership role, but clients increasingly are wondering if this is the second coming of the dot com bubble burst.

So what are the good news? Well, Goldman is bullish on the non-MOMO stocks, which it sees as rising during the next 6 months by, if history is any precedent, 5%. Of course, the market merely regaining its all time highs by October will hardly please the investor community which is used to 20%+ return year after year. After all someone must benefit from the Fed's ludicrous actions.

But most interesting is Goldman's attempt to deny that this is the second coming of March 2000:

We have bad news for hedge funds who, like Hugh Hendry in December of last year, threw fundamentals and caution to the wind and, with great reservations, jumped into this momo bandwagon in which mere buying beget more buying until nobody knew why anyone bought in the first place... and then everything crashed, leading to the worst day for hedge funds in a decade: according to Goldman's David Kostin, whose job is to be a cheerleader for the intangible "wealth effect" leading to all too tangible Goldman bonuses: "The stock market will likely recover during the next few months... but not momentum stocks."
Behold the (not so) great Momo crash of 2014:

First the bad news: according to Goldman not only will the momo stocks not rebound to previous highs and resume their leadership role, but clients increasingly are wondering if this is the second coming of the dot com bubble burst.
Conversations we are having with clients: Momentum reversal and the shadow of 2000
Our client discussions this week focused on two topics: Momentum reversal and comparisons between today and March 2000. Two questions dominated: “When will the reversal end?” and “Will the sell-off in momentum stocks drive a market-wide price decline as occurred in 2000?”
During the past month, momentum has plunged by 7%, a 10th percentile ranking of all monthly momentum returns since 1980. We define “momentum” as the relative performance of the best vs. worst performing S&P 500 stocks during the prior 12 months. We identified 46 similar distinct 10th percentile “drawdowns” with an average one-month return of -8% and a cumulative -10% return during six months.
Historical experience suggests the S&P 500, but not momentum, will likely recover during the next few months. Following the drawdowns, S&P 500 posted a 6-month return averaging +5% and delivered a positive return 70% of the time. Momentum declined by a further 4% on average, and 60% of the time the stocks posted a negative return.
Analysis of historical trading patterns around momentum drawdowns shows: (a) roughly 70% of the reversal is behind us following a 7% unwind during the last month; (b) an additional 3% downside exists to the momentum reversal during the next three months if the current episode follows the average historical experience; (c) if the pattern followed the path of a 25th percentile event a further 7% momentum downside would occur, or about double the reversal that has taken place so far; and (d) whenever the drawdown ends, momentum typically does NOT resume leadership. The best performing stocks during the 12 months leading up to the start of the drawdown do not subsequently outperform (see Exhibit 2).

So what are the good news? Well, Goldman is bullish on the non-MOMO stocks, which it sees as rising during the next 6 months by, if history is any precedent, 5%. Of course, the market merely regaining its all time highs by October will hardly please the investor community which is used to 20%+ return year after year. After all someone must benefit from the Fed's ludicrous actions.
S&P 500 Index performance during 46 momentum reversals since 1980 suggests the broad market will likely rise steadily during the next six months by an average of 5%. Based on a current S&P 500 index level of 1815, a 5% rise would lift the index to just above 1900 which is our year-end 2014 forecast. A 25th percentile trajectory implies a flat equity market during the next six months while tracking at the 75th percentile would see S&P 500 climb by 15% to 2090 by the end of 3Q (see Exhibit 3).

But most interesting is Goldman's attempt to deny that this is the second coming of March 2000:
All great points, yet one thing is conspicuously missing and perhaps Goldman can clarify:One historical momentum drawdown has come up repeatedly in recent conversations with clients: March 2000. The current sell-off in high growth and high valuation stocks, with a concentration in technology subsectors, has some similarities to the popping of the tech bubble in 2000.
Veteran investors will recall S&P 500 and tech-heavy Nasdaq peaked in March 2000. The indices eventually fell by 50% and 75%, respectively. It took the S&P 500 seven years to recover and establish a new high but Nasdaq still remains 25% below its all-time peak reached 14 years ago.
We believe the differences between 2000 and today are more important than the similarities and the recent momentum drawdown is unlikely to
precipitate a more extensive fall in share prices:
- Recent returns are less dramatic. Although the trailing 12-month returns are similar (22% today versus 18% in 2000), the trailing 3-year and 5-year returns are much lower (51% vs. 107% and 161% vs. 227%, respectively).
- Valuation is not nearly as stretched. S&P 500 currently trades at a forward P/E of 16x compared with 25x at the peak in 2000. The price/book ratio is 2.7x versus 6.Xx. The EV/sales is currently 1.8x compared with 2.7x in 2000.
- More balanced market. The reason it is called the “Tech Bubble” is that 14% of the earnings of the S&P 500 came from Tech in 2000 but it accounted for 33% of the equity cap of the index. Today Tech contributes 19% of both earnings and market cap. Top five stocks in 2000 were 18% vs. 11% today.
- Earnings growth expectations are far less aggressive. Bottom-up 2014 consensus EPS growth currently equals 9%, close to our top-down forecast of 8%. In 2000, consensus expected EPS growth equaled 17%.
- Interest rates are dramatically lower. 3-month Treasury yields were 5.9% in 2000 vs. 0.05% today while ten-year yields were 6.0% vs. 2.7% today. The yield curve was inverted by 47 bp. Today the slope equals +229 bp.
- Less new issuance. During 1Q 2000, 115 IPOs were completed for proceeds of $18 billion. In 1Q 2014, 63 completed deals raised $11 billion.
- how much debt as a percentage of global GDP was held by the world's major central banks then and now, and
- how much consolidated global leverage, including shadow banking in both the US and China, as well as how many hundreds of trillions of derivatives notional outstanding existed then... and now
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Submitted by Tyler Durden on
04/12/2014 17:47 -0400
Behold the great momo basket which after being the source of so much joy for
momentum chasers over the past year, has mutated into the source of so much
sorrow over the past two weeks.

We have bad news for hedge funds who, like Hugh Hendry in December of last year, threw fundamentals and caution to the wind and, with great reservations, jumped into this momo bandwagon in which mere buying beget more buying until nobody knew why anyone bought in the first place... and then everything crashed, leading to the worst day for hedge funds in a decade: according to Goldman's David Kostin, whose job is to be a cheerleader for the intangible "wealth effect" leading to all too tangible Goldman bonuses: "The stock market will likely recover during the next few months... but not momentum stocks."
Behold the (not so) great Momo crash of 2014:

First the bad news: according to Goldman not only will the momo stocks not rebound to previous highs and resume their leadership role, but clients increasingly are wondering if this is the second coming of the dot com bubble burst.

So what are the good news? Well, Goldman is bullish on the non-MOMO stocks, which it sees as rising during the next 6 months by, if history is any precedent, 5%. Of course, the market merely regaining its all time highs by October will hardly please the investor community which is used to 20%+ return year after year. After all someone must benefit from the Fed's ludicrous actions.

But most interesting is Goldman's attempt to deny that this is the second coming of March 2000:

We have bad news for hedge funds who, like Hugh Hendry in December of last year, threw fundamentals and caution to the wind and, with great reservations, jumped into this momo bandwagon in which mere buying beget more buying until nobody knew why anyone bought in the first place... and then everything crashed, leading to the worst day for hedge funds in a decade: according to Goldman's David Kostin, whose job is to be a cheerleader for the intangible "wealth effect" leading to all too tangible Goldman bonuses: "The stock market will likely recover during the next few months... but not momentum stocks."
Behold the (not so) great Momo crash of 2014:

First the bad news: according to Goldman not only will the momo stocks not rebound to previous highs and resume their leadership role, but clients increasingly are wondering if this is the second coming of the dot com bubble burst.
Conversations we are having with clients: Momentum reversal and the shadow of 2000
Our client discussions this week focused on two topics: Momentum reversal and comparisons between today and March 2000. Two questions dominated: “When will the reversal end?” and “Will the sell-off in momentum stocks drive a market-wide price decline as occurred in 2000?”
During the past month, momentum has plunged by 7%, a 10th percentile ranking of all monthly momentum returns since 1980. We define “momentum” as the relative performance of the best vs. worst performing S&P 500 stocks during the prior 12 months. We identified 46 similar distinct 10th percentile “drawdowns” with an average one-month return of -8% and a cumulative -10% return during six months.
Historical experience suggests the S&P 500, but not momentum, will likely recover during the next few months. Following the drawdowns, S&P 500 posted a 6-month return averaging +5% and delivered a positive return 70% of the time. Momentum declined by a further 4% on average, and 60% of the time the stocks posted a negative return.
Analysis of historical trading patterns around momentum drawdowns shows: (a) roughly 70% of the reversal is behind us following a 7% unwind during the last month; (b) an additional 3% downside exists to the momentum reversal during the next three months if the current episode follows the average historical experience; (c) if the pattern followed the path of a 25th percentile event a further 7% momentum downside would occur, or about double the reversal that has taken place so far; and (d) whenever the drawdown ends, momentum typically does NOT resume leadership. The best performing stocks during the 12 months leading up to the start of the drawdown do not subsequently outperform (see Exhibit 2).

So what are the good news? Well, Goldman is bullish on the non-MOMO stocks, which it sees as rising during the next 6 months by, if history is any precedent, 5%. Of course, the market merely regaining its all time highs by October will hardly please the investor community which is used to 20%+ return year after year. After all someone must benefit from the Fed's ludicrous actions.
S&P 500 Index performance during 46 momentum reversals since 1980 suggests the broad market will likely rise steadily during the next six months by an average of 5%. Based on a current S&P 500 index level of 1815, a 5% rise would lift the index to just above 1900 which is our year-end 2014 forecast. A 25th percentile trajectory implies a flat equity market during the next six months while tracking at the 75th percentile would see S&P 500 climb by 15% to 2090 by the end of 3Q (see Exhibit 3).

But most interesting is Goldman's attempt to deny that this is the second coming of March 2000:
All great points, yet one thing is conspicuously missing and perhaps Goldman can clarify:One historical momentum drawdown has come up repeatedly in recent conversations with clients: March 2000. The current sell-off in high growth and high valuation stocks, with a concentration in technology subsectors, has some similarities to the popping of the tech bubble in 2000.
Veteran investors will recall S&P 500 and tech-heavy Nasdaq peaked in March 2000. The indices eventually fell by 50% and 75%, respectively. It took the S&P 500 seven years to recover and establish a new high but Nasdaq still remains 25% below its all-time peak reached 14 years ago.
We believe the differences between 2000 and today are more important than the similarities and the recent momentum drawdown is unlikely to
precipitate a more extensive fall in share prices:
- Recent returns are less dramatic. Although the trailing 12-month returns are similar (22% today versus 18% in 2000), the trailing 3-year and 5-year returns are much lower (51% vs. 107% and 161% vs. 227%, respectively).
- Valuation is not nearly as stretched. S&P 500 currently trades at a forward P/E of 16x compared with 25x at the peak in 2000. The price/book ratio is 2.7x versus 6.Xx. The EV/sales is currently 1.8x compared with 2.7x in 2000.
- More balanced market. The reason it is called the “Tech Bubble” is that 14% of the earnings of the S&P 500 came from Tech in 2000 but it accounted for 33% of the equity cap of the index. Today Tech contributes 19% of both earnings and market cap. Top five stocks in 2000 were 18% vs. 11% today.
- Earnings growth expectations are far less aggressive. Bottom-up 2014 consensus EPS growth currently equals 9%, close to our top-down forecast of 8%. In 2000, consensus expected EPS growth equaled 17%.
- Interest rates are dramatically lower. 3-month Treasury yields were 5.9% in 2000 vs. 0.05% today while ten-year yields were 6.0% vs. 2.7% today. The yield curve was inverted by 47 bp. Today the slope equals +229 bp.
- Less new issuance. During 1Q 2000, 115 IPOs were completed for proceeds of $18 billion. In 1Q 2014, 63 completed deals raised $11 billion.
- how much debt as a percentage of global GDP was held by the world's major central banks then and now, and
- how much consolidated global leverage, including shadow banking in both the US and China, as well as how many hundreds of trillions of derivatives notional outstanding existed then... and now
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Sat, 04/12/2014 - 14:46 |
4651537
SmilinJoeFizzion
I pity the idiot who went long nflx @ $450
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 15:00 |
4651566
TruthInSunshine
Stocks are overvalued by 25% to 3,000% and consumers are now massive debt
slaves "buying" a monthly payment on cars, houses, etc., while dealing with
pernicious inflation and declining real wages by leveraging up on even more debt
than in 2007 (where at least structural
unemployment/underemployment/understatement wasn't yet a crisis).
Get ready for the real crash.
Get ready for the real crash.
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 15:29 |
4651616
Oracle 911
Especially when bubble makers are talking about over-valuation and crash. If
these idiots can see it clearly it will be "really different this time" in other
words worse.
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 14:51 |
4651547
Oh regional
Indian
Man I was right there. Company had filed their red herring...Suddenly March
10th, we are acquired for $3.5 BILLION, largest ever private stock
deal....worthless shit for worthlesser crap.
Sank like a stone there-after....$300 to >$2
Interestingly enough, things went sideways and up for a bit and it was everyone, riding on Dubya's CEOship bump....it's after that everything went hard down. Feb 2001 onwards and in real terms has been downward since, with inflation eating away these paper gains.
Most of post March 2000 was a lot of loss offsetting and derivative trading and of course insider nirvana.
ori
Sank like a stone there-after....$300 to >$2
Interestingly enough, things went sideways and up for a bit and it was everyone, riding on Dubya's CEOship bump....it's after that everything went hard down. Feb 2001 onwards and in real terms has been downward since, with inflation eating away these paper gains.
Most of post March 2000 was a lot of loss offsetting and derivative trading and of course insider nirvana.
ori
Isn't that a good thing? The Force of Gravity is inverse squared to the
postion of covering your masses. Counting fast ain't the only thing.
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 15:04 |
4651573
Unknown
Poster
The Wall Street party depends on the fed's punchbowl. With no jobs, no
investment what is there? No POMO, no momo.
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 15:07 |
4651575
SmilinJoeFizzion
They can try that fancy reverse repo move they busted out earlier in the
month. That bought them one green day. Cost them 120b
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 15:19 |
4651592
Unknown
Poster
There are distortions from the reverse repos, but lending out treasuries to
sanitize money market fund's books didn't cost the fed 120b. The charade was
unwound with fed paying interest, but not 120b.
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 15:49 |
4651674
NeedleDickTheBu...
YOU say "momentum", I say "beta" more often than not (or simply levered to WWIII when it comes MIC stocks).
MU - 1.84
FRX - 0.92
ACT - 0.34
FB - 1.77
HAR - 2.41
NFLX - 2.02
DAL - 0.98
FSLR - 2.12
TRIP - 1.49
WYNN - 1.57
ETFC - 2.39
GT - 2.10
BIIB - 1.34
ALXN - 0.51
PBI - 1.53
REGN - 0.81
PCLN - 1.59
GILD - 0.93
LUV - 0.91
LMT - 0.64
NOC - 0.95
MYL - 1.19
WDC - 1.56
RTN - 0.69
STZ - 1.16
GNW - 2.16
YHOO - 1.13
GHC - NA
ADS - 1.12
CMG - 0.81
BSX - 1.05
TSN - 0.28
ADBE - 1.42
MHFI - 0.92
VRTX - (0.25)???
LNC - 2.39
BA - 1.05
TMO - 1.06
WAG - 1.20
STX - 3.15
MCK - 0.89
STJ - 1.51
HUM - 0.98
MCO - 1.57
BWA - 1.67
TWC - 0.86
BBY - 2.19
GD - 0.92
AKAM - 1.93
KORS - 1.88
I'm guessing that a great number of investors are either clueless or engage in willful blindness when it comes to "risk-adjusted returns". It makes it all good for the fund managers.
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 15:58 |
4651692
disabledvet
Hugh "I can't look myself in he mirror" Hendry goes all in on Absolute
Zero.
As Uncle Joe Stalin famously said "how many divisions have you?"
I guess we're all gonna find out now.
Eeeee haw and yippee ki-aye.
As Uncle Joe Stalin famously said "how many divisions have you?"
I guess we're all gonna find out now.
Eeeee haw and yippee ki-aye.
The FED Globalists will fix it.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?id=WALCL
All Federal Reserve Banks - Total Assets, Eliminations from Consolidation
$4.4 trillion
All Federal Reserve Banks - Total Assets, Eliminations from Consolidation
$4.4 trillion
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:00 |
4652105
Unknown
Poster
Another look: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=x1N My apologies,
i was trying to compare balance sheet to SP 500. My 'puter skills need
work.
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:11 |
4651974
Quinvarius
When the market goes down, it takes everything with it. There will be no
difference between what GS thinks is a momo stock and the reality that they are
all momo stocks. The only question is intervention or no
intervention.
"...Historical experience suggests the S&P 500, but not momentum,
will likely recover during the next few months..."
"...Analysis of historical trading patterns around momentum drawdowns shows..."
That's bullshit. Who gives a damn about "historical trading patterns"?
There must be like fivehundredbillion different things influencing the markets nowadays and not a single one of the factors is comparable to anything in 2000 or 2008 (except stupid investor behaviour maybe). All of the factors combined are CERNTAINLY NOT THE SAME. It's not the same "investors"/bankers/politicians/company leadership, it's not the same economic situation it's not the same trading systems, not the same rules, it's not the same companies, the internet is different, the means of communication are different, the people's attention span is ever shorter and so on and so forth...
But still of course at one point this "market" is gonna crash like hell (maybe next week?). And much faster much more crazy than we could have ever imagined. And I'm looking forward to watching Goldman and CNBC explaining all of this in "historical context".
"...Analysis of historical trading patterns around momentum drawdowns shows..."
That's bullshit. Who gives a damn about "historical trading patterns"?
There must be like fivehundredbillion different things influencing the markets nowadays and not a single one of the factors is comparable to anything in 2000 or 2008 (except stupid investor behaviour maybe). All of the factors combined are CERNTAINLY NOT THE SAME. It's not the same "investors"/bankers/politicians/company leadership, it's not the same economic situation it's not the same trading systems, not the same rules, it's not the same companies, the internet is different, the means of communication are different, the people's attention span is ever shorter and so on and so forth...
But still of course at one point this "market" is gonna crash like hell (maybe next week?). And much faster much more crazy than we could have ever imagined. And I'm looking forward to watching Goldman and CNBC explaining all of this in "historical context".
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:37 |
4652200
southerncomfort
why does market have to crash. reset is now. now is result of last five
years. if u drive a car, does it always crash? there's risk, yes. but u adjust
accordingly to ur comfort level of risk. looking over globe, more people than
2000, 1929. wouldn't we need larger vehicle (market) to accommodate all billions
of these people-consumers?-yes? so because globe requires fatter vehicle to
service more people why is it required to crash? ...but it does. not sayin it
won't. lol, what goes up...but this global QE messin' w/ where ground from up
is now. like new normal is investing on a rocking boat. haha but it's ...wild.
i dig wild. in moderation...hahaha
The great MOMO crash of "14. Good Lord we're doomed.
Call me when this ponzi crashes 3-4 % "day after day" for 2 weeks!
Call me when this ponzi crashes 3-4 % "day after day" for 2 weeks!
Their very analysis confirms that 'now' is much worse than 2000 and 2007.
Gotta be able to 'read' what is being conveyed...
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:55 |
4652268
Goldilocks
Neil Sedaka - Laughter In The Rain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsYIiY2wnyU (2:48)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsYIiY2wnyU (2:48)
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:05 |
4652300
naughtius
maximus
What about the great crash of Feb 3rd 2014? Or the one from aug 19 2011? Or
that one from July 2 2010? Don't those matter anymore?
Bull dicks to the moon!
Bull dicks to the moon!
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:11 |
4652327
naughtius
maximus
The economy is so bad that: I received a pre-declined credit card in
the mail. CEO's are now playing MINIATURE golf. Exxon-Mobile laid off 25
Congressmen. Angelina Jolie adopted a child from America. Motel 6 won't leave
the light on anymore! A picture is now only worth 200 words. They renamed Wall
Street " Wal-Mart Street". Finally, I called the Suicide Hotline. I got a call
center in Pakistan and when I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited,
and asked if I could drive a truck!!!


























Get ready for the real crash.
Sank like a stone there-after....$300 to >$2
Interestingly enough, things went sideways and up for a bit and it was everyone, riding on Dubya's CEOship bump....it's after that everything went hard down. Feb 2001 onwards and in real terms has been downward since, with inflation eating away these paper gains.
Most of post March 2000 was a lot of loss offsetting and derivative trading and of course insider nirvana.
ori
YOU say "momentum", I say "beta" more often than not (or simply levered to WWIII when it comes MIC stocks).
MU - 1.84
FRX - 0.92
ACT - 0.34
FB - 1.77
HAR - 2.41
NFLX - 2.02
DAL - 0.98
FSLR - 2.12
TRIP - 1.49
WYNN - 1.57
ETFC - 2.39
GT - 2.10
BIIB - 1.34
ALXN - 0.51
PBI - 1.53
REGN - 0.81
PCLN - 1.59
GILD - 0.93
LUV - 0.91
LMT - 0.64
NOC - 0.95
MYL - 1.19
WDC - 1.56
RTN - 0.69
STZ - 1.16
GNW - 2.16
YHOO - 1.13
GHC - NA
ADS - 1.12
CMG - 0.81
BSX - 1.05
TSN - 0.28
ADBE - 1.42
MHFI - 0.92
VRTX - (0.25)???
LNC - 2.39
BA - 1.05
TMO - 1.06
WAG - 1.20
STX - 3.15
MCK - 0.89
STJ - 1.51
HUM - 0.98
MCO - 1.57
BWA - 1.67
TWC - 0.86
BBY - 2.19
GD - 0.92
AKAM - 1.93
KORS - 1.88
I'm guessing that a great number of investors are either clueless or engage in willful blindness when it comes to "risk-adjusted returns". It makes it all good for the fund managers.
As Uncle Joe Stalin famously said "how many divisions have you?"
I guess we're all gonna find out now.
Eeeee haw and yippee ki-aye.
All Federal Reserve Banks - Total Assets, Eliminations from Consolidation
$4.4 trillion
"...Analysis of historical trading patterns around momentum drawdowns shows..."
That's bullshit. Who gives a damn about "historical trading patterns"?
There must be like fivehundredbillion different things influencing the markets nowadays and not a single one of the factors is comparable to anything in 2000 or 2008 (except stupid investor behaviour maybe). All of the factors combined are CERNTAINLY NOT THE SAME. It's not the same "investors"/bankers/politicians/company leadership, it's not the same economic situation it's not the same trading systems, not the same rules, it's not the same companies, the internet is different, the means of communication are different, the people's attention span is ever shorter and so on and so forth...
But still of course at one point this "market" is gonna crash like hell (maybe next week?). And much faster much more crazy than we could have ever imagined. And I'm looking forward to watching Goldman and CNBC explaining all of this in "historical context".
Call me when this ponzi crashes 3-4 % "day after day" for 2 weeks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsYIiY2wnyU (2:48)
Bull dicks to the moon!
Famous last words. It is confined to momo. It is confined to subprime.